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Hinter allen Accounts vermutete er ein und dieselbe Person, nämlich William Holmberg. Im Gegensatz zu ersten Befürchtungen, dass lediglich das Herausfinden der IP-Adresse genügen könnte, um entsprechend manipulierende Software zu installieren, erwiesen sich bei genauerer Sicht als haltlos. Ich glaube immernoch das welche in PS cheaten. Das Ganze funktioniert allerdings auch bei Privat-Personen. Kann ich auch machen, so eine Software wo man alle Karten sehen kann, musst Dich nur ein wenig mit PCs und entsprechenden Programmen auskennen.Whether a bot or a real person I'm uncertain, left instantly after winning nearly all the cash I had left in my account. The other bad bets experienced are me on the opposite side having 44 and the flop coming up hitting quads and someone pushing all in with 55 - Yep you can guess it river is a 5 - quads over quads.
Come on folks - this is just a beginning but what are the odds of this even happening to me in a lifetime twice in such a fashion? Give me a break.
K I had to let that off my chest and share it with the world. I have never come across anything like Pokerstars in all of my life.
I can relate to a lot of what is said here and one review in particular stood out to me; this person mentions playing every site over the years and winning at them, the only anomaly being Pokerstars.
I recently have been back to regular playing again thanks to a change in circumstances and I ended up at Stars because their range of tournaments is second to none by a long shot, it's the main site, simple as that.
I figured it was years ago I last played there, maybe it's not as bad as my memory is telling me. Well turns out it is now worse from what I can tell.
I'm not going to go into every hand, there's too many but I will say that I'm a very solid online poker player, my patience, discipline and decision-making are very good.
I do not often make a wrong decision and I call out the plethora of idiots that are obsessed with overplaying their hand on a regular basis.
Unfortunately on Stars any decision is apparently the wrong one, I get screwed so often it just cannot possibly be normal. I hate the people that treat you like some sort of conspiracy nut if you dare to question the integrity of a multi-million dollar company that has already broken U.
Yeah, it's completely beyond the realms of reality to even suggest that something maybe off with them. The two main arguments you hear from those people are "variance" and "prove it", "if you're gonna make those claims then you have to prove it".
Two pretty simple responses to this that seem to fall on deaf ears. Ok, variance exists, it happens and I can accept that. The clues in the name pal, "variance", that's some very peculiar variance where it's only one way!
As for "prove it", very simple, "You prove it isn't". If you wanna tell me I can't say something is up then show me your proof there isn't something untoward going on?
Better still, Pokerstars, you get enough complaints about this, you take our money, you prove it. They never respond to any claims made, why? It would be pretty simple.
I don't know what more I can say without turning this into a small novel. Just simply put, all aspects of either side of the argument aside, I personally find it a lot harder to believe that something isn't going on with that site than believe it's all hunky dory and I'm just somehow one of the most unlucky players to ever use their site.
I've had an account with Pokerstars for ten plus years, never had an issue. Yet I also never deposited very much. Why not email me?
Anyways I get a reply stating that during a random security screening, my account was selected and didn't pass screening. No reason as to why, just a BS excuse to keep my money.
They ignore my emails, and efforts to contact the gaming commission have done nothing as of yet. Not even a reply from them either. Be warned, I'm not alone, and this is happening at an increasing rate.
My guess is their trying to recover some loses. Read their terms of service closely. They can close your account for any reason they chose, and keep your money.
Is a company that committed grand scale fraud, and has policies that enable them to steal accounts where you want to put your money at?
I'm fighting tooth and nail to get my money back, yet I don't stand a chance really. I've played Spin and Go for a while and more and more I realise that even if I was not an average player I would still win more hands than I do, especially when I have two cards that are better than what I see the other players eventually have.
I've lost count of the amount of times I've lost AA or KK to a low tow pair with the other players going all in with something crazy like a 3 and a 7 and - OMG they get two pair or a straight, or a flush or a tripple.
I also notice many other players usually in Russia seem to push every raise when they have the lowest card on the flop they have paired, even if there are face cards out too.
Its happening so often as well. Other players have noted that they have lost 3, 4, 5 winning hands in a row to lower cards from other players and its a flush, a straight or two pair and I have to agree.
The frequency at which I loose to these hands, compared to how often I get them is outrageously unbalanced odds. I'm not sure if its Pokerstars that is rigged or if its been hacked - either way its not something you should put any money into.
I spend an entire weekend a few weeks ago tracking every hand, what I had, and how I won or lost and the above was shown to be so true. I've also noticed that when I would deposit, I would initially win a few good hands, but then the same old same old would start to happen and invariably my stack would drop.
Its time for the government to investigate Pokerstars so the suspicions of so many people, the fact Pokerstars avoids any accountability and the video evidence of games that are so blatantly rigged or hacked comes out and they end up having to refund the real genuine players.
I have been playing poker for 20 yrs and Jokerstars is corrupt. Do not play there. I played the money tables at first started to win at the start and then I would get rivered every hand.
So i played play money and they cheat there too. In my last 13 hands i had the overpair 13 times and wouldn't you know it they hit 11 sets and 2 quads on me.
Each one, opening hand i get dealt pocket Kings Playing real money no limit hold-em on pokerstars, over the course of almost 2,, hands,I got pocket aces all-in, pre-flop, vs a single opponent times.
Assuming the data is reliable, what might the explanation be for a variance of this magnitude? My account was frozen because "suspected hacking, logged on from foreign country".
Ridiculously bad customer service and terrible "detectives". I was bored, so I took a look at one alleged player at pokerstars, supposedly from Russia, sega The pokerstars inside player was playing 23 games at the same time.
No joke, 23 games at the same time? This would be an impossible feat by any human being. Been playing on P. But what I can attest to is this, P.
Each time my tournament life had been on the line when having the best hand pre-flop and shoving all in, my hand would lose. This is NOT an exaggeration; there are thousands of games in which I had played that this had occurred.
My win rate would be less than 0. The so called random generator does not seem to exist when I appear to be logged into P.
Looking at the commemts is like seeing my own thoughts this guy kept beating everyone one night no matter what cards they had I dont know why I tried pushing all in against him but I lost.
I always seem to lose the last card that comes out when i have good cards before it, ive never withdraw anything but Im sure the other accounts i made pissed them off because they kept emailing me saying I made other accounts I just forgot the logins most the tims and this time I wantes a cooler name.
A few people were going mad claimimg that dream catcher was rigged and the women was just changing the subject. I heard one guy read a comment about it being rigged but near the end he went quiet lile he was being told off down an ear piece orr something.
I really dont know about tbis site man im feeling taking my money to pokerstars because im putting quite abit of cash into it and I dont think they're worthy of anyones cash.
I've played online for full time for the last 3 years, i play high volume like tables 8 hours a day. Then i'll go after your points 1 by 1 and hope you'll understand that poker is rather a game of skill and luck combined.
Most people are playing on many tables, dont even have the chat open and if they have most people won't answer.
Poker is a high volume game, the rake is high so you've to play more tables a time all the time, no time to chat. So they study the game real hard and start playing,most of them are dangerous and good.
You can mail me this, and i'll check the patterns and know if its a human or a bot wich seems unreasonable. There are not bad suckers, depends on what you play above 50 dollars you'll be the fish for them and they'll come to play against you.
Depends on where you look, i can almost find all the players at sharkscope, or pokerprolabs you can see everything there.
I've got a HUD pokerprogram Running all the time when i play a big tournament. But that's no bot, that's a program who keeps all the data and statistics.
What am i doing here? Just lost 2k and im sad about it: Study the game read books,watch pokerhands, buy a pokerprogram HUD then you know what you're doing and why you're doing it.
Do proper BRM make sure you got at least buy ins for the stake that you are playing. So you wont lose everything at once after a losing session.
I've lived many years now from playing poker and yea its a tough way to make money, we pay too much rake and somethimes you take shots that dont work out well.
I shouldnt begin with it, but if you are good and want to do everything i mentioned above you can make money for sure pokerstars or any other site i prefer another site ps mostly good players.
Hello, I am not going to tell you how many ridiculous hands managed to beat me - you'd think that I am a sore loser. Rather, I tell you about some really weird stuff I can't understand - all of it leads me to the belief that pokerstars is rigged or something is really wrong with it or people are hacking it, I don't know.
I've played poker for many many years. But have never been in a game where the other players would not play like humans I mean I played online poker before with real people, and when I did hatthat, Isaw all the things which people do: But when I play cent or dollar cash games on pokerstars, most of the time no one ever says anything, it feels like totally bereft of human interaction or even thinking Moreover, I come from a tiny country, but people who are sitting on the same table from my country don't chat back to me Overall the whole feeling is like I am not playing against humans 3.
Why would you do that? And why does this happen with such a regularity? The fact is that if you are winning, you are stronger and would rather linger - that is if you were human.
There are so many people from Russia.. Anytime there's Russians, it feels like I am playing some computer bots.
I've played one Russian the entire night - not one time did he behave like a person, send a chat message etc. I have completely no recollection of his play as his play was machine-like, totally without any flavor.
I tried to look him up and realized that he was playing at 12 tables simultaneously? How is that even possible?????
I have never come across a bad sucker - in all those games, everybody was behaving the same - super tight and fairly clear game Many of the players can't be even looked up..
Games proceed one after another in a machine-style fashion. No hesitating or strategizing can be discerned..
Overall, I am not sure how it's possible technically but I am pretty sure I was not playing humans on pokerstars. Stay away from this site.
Well let me put this way. I have been playing poker for 10 years now and online for last 4 years. Having doubts all the way if PS is "fixed" I recently run the test.
There is a lot of comments and articles considering different statistics and amount of data one needs to have available to be able to say thay game is fixed.
As for amount of data I disagree because what you really need is to compare the online game with regular one and look for patterns.
Lets say that you play tournament players online vs the same one in some poker room. Lets agree that you will still play on 1 table at the time, against 8 other players and that you have to most probably play avg.
It is sure that online game will go much faster but it is still factor of hands which remains similiar. I have played 3 tournaments at the same time.
Playing the very same table I happened to see within period of aprox. AKs I raced from button for this example doesnt matter how much 1 player called Player showed AA I lost Now this can happend.
I had 5x bigger stack then player so we keep playing J9s I raced from button for this example doesnt matter how much 1 player called Player showed 99 I lost KK I raced from big blind for this example doesnt matter how much 1 player called KAA I checked again doesnt matter how much 1 player allin I called Player showed AA I lost Now you could say it can happen.
Yes it can but i saw this on other two tables with other players within same period of time and same tournaments. That is like impossible.
Get 3 times within period of 50 hands on 3 different tables 4 same cards on flop to get best hand - no way.
Now as for Quads, Flush, etc. I can say that in ten years i can surely compare amount of hands played within last 4 years.
And that is what it is about. Here is the result: So my conclusion is that YES online poker is fixed. It seems that it is fixed or balanced the way that game force players to post big bets and run tournament faster ahead.
And that is where i am going with my theory. If the dealt cards provoke players to place higher bets, if all blinds raising is set to go faster and PS charge 1 time fee per tournament, isn't then important for PS owners to run high amount of tournaments at the same time?
Amount of players today is more less same and earnigs of PS will be more less same too and to get them higher they have make sure that they run as many tournaments they possibly can no?
So at the same time they need to get these players to play quickly so they subscribe to new tournament and pay another fee no? That is for reason WHY they game is fixed.
Today I received a threatening email from pokerstars. It says that registering at the last min in tournaments and trying to make the money is against the TOS and that if i continue to do it my account will be closed.
This involves late registration into certain tournaments" If playing within the rules of the game is a violation of the TOS that means that Pokerstars is no longer a legitimate poker site.
I had left because it was so hard to get a hand at times.. I have played for 47 years and refuse to keep adding money to this scam.. I left it alone for 2 years and recently added 10 dollars to my account Just to see whats up,,and assure my self I was not imagining things.
Well it seems even worse now,,,its like I am playing a machine not other people.. I also notice that they are having trouble getting 50, people at any given time.
I always do well in live games but again I can not make a hand and if I do the most unusual things come up and beat me So if you feel like you are going futz,,,you are not,,,you have no chance.
One thing Ive always wondered to is if they can take 10 dollars why cant they give it back if you do win????
Id love to table up with that punk Negrano,,looser. Luck is part of the game, other part of your game is your skills and patients I run bad as well, but you need only one day to turn it all around Minus their request of a statement showing my card number, after multiple attempts to explain to them its a debit card, affialited with my checking account , its not a credit card which displays the card number on the statement Numerous calls and they just tell me ita under investagation , give us a few dats, a year and a half later and still nothing.
I have played PS since it started business. Therefore, poker rooms are using a set of different mechanisms to detect bots.
These mechanisms are not published publicly for obvious reasons. However, some of the protective measures probably include:.
This poker bot check is probably shown only to multiplayers. In addition, the poker rooms prohibit the use of certain programs while playing poker, such as programs which make decisions for the human players or which make them suggestions on how to play a hand in real-time.
For example, the use of programs that makes push or fold recommendations based on the Independent Chip Model is prohibited. Ghosting Ghosting is giving advice from one poker player to another player during the poker game or tournament.
While this is prohibited in live tournaments, it can be very difficult to enforce this in online tournaments. Ghosting can happen when a friend sits next to the poker player and plays the tournament with him.
Ghosting at poker happens more often online with the help of free tools such such as Skype or Teamviewer. In addition, having a live coach reduces the risk of tilt significantly.
Ghosting is mainly used in the late phase of online poker tournaments with a high prize pools. It is quite usual that players were lucky and made it into the money or even to the final table.
In this case, a coach can help them win thousands of dollars. Collusion Collusion refers to the cooperative play between two or more players at the poker table.
Collusion can mean that two players are spearing each other, are submitting themselves the value of their hole cards or are even intentionally cooperating to win the money of an opponent.
Collusion is a clear case of fraud. This kind of cheating is prohibited by the poker rooms in their terms and conditions. Such a form of interaction can be time-consuming and it is difficult multitable and collude profitably at the same time.
Collusion therefore makes mainly sense at the higher limits, where a small edge can lead to a large financial benefit. Online poker players can share their hole cards and intended ways of playing the current hand with telephone, cell phone, Skype or other messenger programs.
A milder form of collusion is implicit collusion. This happens between experienced players at the bubble of a tournament.
If a small stack goes all-in, it can make sense for the large stacks to call his bet and to check the flop, turn and river.
By sparing each other, they maximize the probability that at least one of them has a stronger hand than the small stack, thus eliminating him from the tournament and getting them all into the money.
This collaboration by checking-down a hand is allowed as long as it is agreed on implicitly and not directly, e.
Viewing Hole Cards A player who sees the hole cards of his opponents can win every hand or avoid losing money when his hand is inferior.
Online poker rooms are only sending the information the information about the hole cards to the one player. The information on the hole cards of the opponents is stored centrally on the poker server.
He was able to see the hole cards of all opponents at the table. He was eventually caught when a player who became second in a tournament suspected that he was cheated.
When he requested the hand history, Absolute Poker unintentionally sent him the complete hand history of all players at the tournament.
A specialist then analyzed the hand history file and found out that the winner of the tournament played saw the flop with all his hole cards after the first round, and that he folded before the showdown every time he was behind.
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As long as that continues all you have is the sites word. I deposit more than anyone I know and you would think they would make me one of the big money winners but no its actually the opposite.
I believe there are many cheaters or bots on this site and another one as well. The same poorly skilled players win every single night I am on there and they have to hit runner runner runner to do so but somehow they do 8 of 10 times.
How do these people that have next to no skills whatsoever make thousands of dollars on these sites but I cannot.?!
They have to be working with the sites and cheating of some kind theres no way they are winning every night but just pure luck.
There was a recent suspect of player cheating on wsop recently and he was spoken to and was still allowed to play on the site.
I am done with this site and they have got me enough! Stay away believe me they will screw you in the long run!
I do believe cheating and bots and all the rest do happen, but I think pooer play is more to blame for not winning. If you deposit in bulk first they let you win and you will get no matching cards.
These persons only play the game and take all you money. Someone needs to explain to me about a scenario that happened to me that was a Blatant cheat.
I was playing at a legal Nevada online poker site, a site I have played at for over two years on the same compute. So one day I am playing pretty steady throughout the day and night.
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Auch, wenn das Video gefaket ist. Für eines meiner Projekte benötigte ich einen Programmierer, den ich auf Freelancer. Deren reaktionen waren sehr lustig und zack waren Sie auch schon aus PS raus. Nach längerem Chatten mit dem Entwickler stellte sich heraus, dass er früher bei Pokerstars in der IT-Abteilung angestellt war. Er stammt vor allem aus Zeiten instabiler Internet-Verbindungen. Das Geld, das der Spieler bis zur Unterbrechung in den Pot investiert hatte, bekam er zurückerstattet. Nur ich frage mich manchmal warum ihr dann im internet spielt.We want a clean game just as much as you do - both PokerStars and you directly benefit from honest and fair games, and we want to work constructively with you and anyone else, for that matter to ensure that our games are fair.
Additionally, PokerStars has confirmed the investigation to PokerNews , and have promised to give us an update as soon new details will emerge.
Players have reported on TwoPlusTwo that they have received refunds, albeit with very little explanation. The amounts being refunded are relatively small in comparison to the number of hands played against the suspected accounts leading some to believe that their refunds could be a result of an unrelated case of cheating.
To add to the speculation, other players have reported receiving refunds playing at higher stakes than it was thought the bots were playing at.
While it is possible that these refunds are due to an unrelated case, many others believe that the relatively small amount of refunds is due to the small amount PokerStars was able to confiscate from these accounts as part of their ongoing investigation.
It is speculated that the suspected cheaters were typically keeping minimum funds in their accounts by frequently withdrawing their winnings.
My view is they caught more accounts than was reported and that is why players who never logged hands on PLO50 and got refunds, too.
Would be interesting to know for example which high volume zoom accounts stopped playing last few months. For a short-period of time, many believed that the games were once again "safe" with most if not all of the suspected accounts being shut-down.
While it is true that many of the originally reported accounts have been closed by PokerStars, there are new reports of additional accounts popping up with similar styles of play.
TwoPlusTwo poster "Loctus" shared with the poker community that PokerStars has acknowledged that there still may be a problem and that they are investigating.
It also appears they are attempting to discourage posters from sharing individual screennames, claiming that this may be considering slander, and may tip off potential cheaters that they are being investigated.
While this may be true, the original posting of screennames was needed for Internet detectives to dig further into the play of the suspected parties.
Furthermore, as you can see from the correspondence below, that PokerStars believes that not all the players accused of cheating were actually doing so.
Thank you for your report. Your email was escalated to me as an expert in bot detection and as a member of the PokerStars Game Integrity Team.
We are indeed aware of the online discussions alleging a group of accounts to be operating poker bots. Please rest assured that we do not tolerate such activity on PokerStars.
We have an extensive arsenal of detection tools in order to ensure that each player is a human being and playing without the use of prohibited programs.
Firstly, we note that the discussions include a list of accounts that are assumed to have been closed due to lack of recent activity.
We can confirm that a number of these accounts have indeed been closed for violations of our Terms of Service, but this does not hold true for every account mentioned.
Due to our strict privacy policy, we are unable to disclose User IDs in the context of fraud, nor offer comment as to why accounts we might have previously investigated may not have any recent activity.
As for the numerous active accounts mentioned, we do understand the concerns surrounding their playing statistics.
Our access to all hand histories on PokerStars allows us to analyze any similarities in playing statistics between these accounts, as well as every other account.
However, similar playing statistics alone is not sufficient proof wrongdoing, and we must do our due diligence to ensure that the correct resolution is reached.
Our investigation includes, but is not limited to, reviewing their software and playing environments, how they interact with the PokerStars client, as well as analyzing their activity in real-time and conducting Turing tests.
We kindly ask for your patience while we thoroughly investigate this matter. We also recommend that the identities of suspects be reported to us directly, not only to avoid slandering potentially innocent players, but also to avoid tipping off potential offenders.
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Live Events 1 partypoker Caribbean Poker Party. User Account Sign in. What am i doing here? Just lost 2k and im sad about it: Study the game read books,watch pokerhands, buy a pokerprogram HUD then you know what you're doing and why you're doing it.
Do proper BRM make sure you got at least buy ins for the stake that you are playing. So you wont lose everything at once after a losing session.
I've lived many years now from playing poker and yea its a tough way to make money, we pay too much rake and somethimes you take shots that dont work out well.
I shouldnt begin with it, but if you are good and want to do everything i mentioned above you can make money for sure pokerstars or any other site i prefer another site ps mostly good players.
Hello, I am not going to tell you how many ridiculous hands managed to beat me - you'd think that I am a sore loser.
Rather, I tell you about some really weird stuff I can't understand - all of it leads me to the belief that pokerstars is rigged or something is really wrong with it or people are hacking it, I don't know.
I've played poker for many many years. But have never been in a game where the other players would not play like humans I mean I played online poker before with real people, and when I did hatthat, Isaw all the things which people do: But when I play cent or dollar cash games on pokerstars, most of the time no one ever says anything, it feels like totally bereft of human interaction or even thinking Moreover, I come from a tiny country, but people who are sitting on the same table from my country don't chat back to me Overall the whole feeling is like I am not playing against humans 3.
Why would you do that? And why does this happen with such a regularity? The fact is that if you are winning, you are stronger and would rather linger - that is if you were human.
There are so many people from Russia.. Anytime there's Russians, it feels like I am playing some computer bots. I've played one Russian the entire night - not one time did he behave like a person, send a chat message etc.
I have completely no recollection of his play as his play was machine-like, totally without any flavor. I tried to look him up and realized that he was playing at 12 tables simultaneously?
How is that even possible????? I have never come across a bad sucker - in all those games, everybody was behaving the same - super tight and fairly clear game Many of the players can't be even looked up..
Games proceed one after another in a machine-style fashion. No hesitating or strategizing can be discerned..
Overall, I am not sure how it's possible technically but I am pretty sure I was not playing humans on pokerstars. Stay away from this site.
Well let me put this way. I have been playing poker for 10 years now and online for last 4 years. Having doubts all the way if PS is "fixed" I recently run the test.
There is a lot of comments and articles considering different statistics and amount of data one needs to have available to be able to say thay game is fixed.
As for amount of data I disagree because what you really need is to compare the online game with regular one and look for patterns.
Lets say that you play tournament players online vs the same one in some poker room. Lets agree that you will still play on 1 table at the time, against 8 other players and that you have to most probably play avg.
It is sure that online game will go much faster but it is still factor of hands which remains similiar. I have played 3 tournaments at the same time.
Playing the very same table I happened to see within period of aprox. AKs I raced from button for this example doesnt matter how much 1 player called Player showed AA I lost Now this can happend.
I had 5x bigger stack then player so we keep playing J9s I raced from button for this example doesnt matter how much 1 player called Player showed 99 I lost KK I raced from big blind for this example doesnt matter how much 1 player called KAA I checked again doesnt matter how much 1 player allin I called Player showed AA I lost Now you could say it can happen.
Yes it can but i saw this on other two tables with other players within same period of time and same tournaments. That is like impossible.
Get 3 times within period of 50 hands on 3 different tables 4 same cards on flop to get best hand - no way.
Now as for Quads, Flush, etc. I can say that in ten years i can surely compare amount of hands played within last 4 years.
And that is what it is about. Here is the result: So my conclusion is that YES online poker is fixed. It seems that it is fixed or balanced the way that game force players to post big bets and run tournament faster ahead.
And that is where i am going with my theory. If the dealt cards provoke players to place higher bets, if all blinds raising is set to go faster and PS charge 1 time fee per tournament, isn't then important for PS owners to run high amount of tournaments at the same time?
Amount of players today is more less same and earnigs of PS will be more less same too and to get them higher they have make sure that they run as many tournaments they possibly can no?
So at the same time they need to get these players to play quickly so they subscribe to new tournament and pay another fee no? That is for reason WHY they game is fixed.
Today I received a threatening email from pokerstars. It says that registering at the last min in tournaments and trying to make the money is against the TOS and that if i continue to do it my account will be closed.
This involves late registration into certain tournaments" If playing within the rules of the game is a violation of the TOS that means that Pokerstars is no longer a legitimate poker site.
I had left because it was so hard to get a hand at times.. I have played for 47 years and refuse to keep adding money to this scam.. I left it alone for 2 years and recently added 10 dollars to my account Just to see whats up,,and assure my self I was not imagining things.
Well it seems even worse now,,,its like I am playing a machine not other people.. I also notice that they are having trouble getting 50, people at any given time.
I always do well in live games but again I can not make a hand and if I do the most unusual things come up and beat me So if you feel like you are going futz,,,you are not,,,you have no chance.
One thing Ive always wondered to is if they can take 10 dollars why cant they give it back if you do win???? Id love to table up with that punk Negrano,,looser.
Luck is part of the game, other part of your game is your skills and patients I run bad as well, but you need only one day to turn it all around Minus their request of a statement showing my card number, after multiple attempts to explain to them its a debit card, affialited with my checking account , its not a credit card which displays the card number on the statement Numerous calls and they just tell me ita under investagation , give us a few dats, a year and a half later and still nothing.
I have played PS since it started business. Others experienced the same thing later in nlh also, known as "i will sit out here just to see you to donk the next 2-outer on the turn.
There were runs when one ran normally, so it wasn't bad all the time. I have later moved to plo, but it was impossible to continue winning after Amaya became the owner.
The tourneys, you can watch any tourney as well as play them and you will see it is "gay. I could also mention limit holdem heads up, it used to work like a rubber band that when you went up, you were pulled double that down.
I've played poker offline and on, but I've never seen such absurd hands in such frequent succession. I'm at a 1,, buy in table, and a guy joins and immediately goes all in.
Not that weird I guess, some people do this. So everyone folds and he takes the blinds. Next hand all in. Next hand all in; this time someone calls.
He ends up with 4 of a kind. OK, that is rare but I guess it happens. Then he folds a few, goes all in preflop once again and takes the blinds.
He gets 4 of a kind again! Right then and there I should have left the table. I even said something in the chat but no one else left so I thought I'd see how things went.
Quite a few hands down the road, he loses a big hand and I see this as reassurance that the game might not be rigged.
So then I get AK. It's just me and this guy that see the flop. I bet and he calls. Ok, this is looking really good.
I check, and he goes all in. Guess what he has? Which means he hits a full house and knocks me out. There are other hands he won that he had no business winning, and I just can't play this game anymore.
The fact that getting 4 of a kind is infinitesimally small and he hit two in 6 hands is just ridiculous. Too many think poker Stars has no vested interest in rigging a tournament - wrong.
The bad beats are all in favour of chip leaders in "all In situations" - the reason being the quicker they knock out players the quicker you start another tourney, thus providing a new hosting rake.
Watch, again and again completely improbable beats in favour of the chip leaders - losers head to another tourney and another buy in. I was dealt 10 clubs and 4 diamonds 4 times in a row!!
Same cards, same suits.. Im not a math guy, but that seems pretty damn fishy. It wasn't just at the same tourney, or same table Im sure you have better odds of winning the powerball twice in a row, get hit by lightning 7 times in an hour and become president of the us than getting the exact same hole cards 4 hands in a row.
I've read many reviews here and they're nonsense. You post specific hands, and I have more bad beats a day than all hands written here combined, it makes no sense to post individual hands.
What I can say is that after 4 years of profitable poker I do think it's rigged. Bad players make it out on turn on river and I never do.
You can avoid it if you deposit in native currency first and then through the menu convert to USD. If you directly deposit into USD, 2.
I think the game is rigged for bad players, to increase the volume of the same money going into rake. If money goes from bad to good player directly, it will be withdrawn and pokerstars won't get to make profit, if it's played over and over again, pokerstars makes the most of profits, especially in trounaments.
It's not some individual hands, it happened today ffs. I have played thousands and thousands of online, and real poker hands.
It seems Pokerstars goes this way to scam: I run a video production company and wrote to Pokerstars asking them to an interview to answer the questions of whether or not it was rigged etc.
I know the email got delivered, but I never received a response. Yes, their deal may be certified, but they never state how many people - most notably the Russians - have cracked that deal and can "see" the cards.
I play poker - For more than fifteen years. How the hell does THAT happen? When the pros start saying it stinks, you have to take notice.
How does that happen? Someone else noted here, that you have AA Usually, it's a Russian. Yet, Pokerstars continually says their software is validated for a "fair deal".
Yet, if you raise this with PS, they just say over and over how certificated they are. I've played a LOT of poker - online and live I entered and won my first live tourney.
I am NOT a poor player, by any means. I'm not the best either. Pokerstars is rigged - they should prove it's not, rather than us have to prove it is.
Because, so far, the overwhelming evidence detailing rigged plays has been ignored totally by them. I tried pokerstars some years ago made some statistical analysis and concluded that the site was rigged.
A particular player that I wrote about in my small report suddenly made his statistics unavailable at Sharkscope when I wrote about him.
He was a real psychic. Nearly always winning when he was the dog. I thought I should try it again just for fun.
It was not fun. How they help the small stack fish. How the miracle card turn up every fugging time for the bad player.
How the preflop allins always ends in a hit and mostly in straights and full houses. You wait and wait and move in call with AK when someone moves in with jack 7 and the board is jack jack xx 7.
Another tournament ak vs j7. Then he only hits two pair on the flop. Move in with 10 3 against aa and hit straight.
I want to talk with a person that says this shit is random. WE can sit and play together and discuss. Does it really exist anyone on this planet that thinks this garbage is random?
I have studied statistics full time for nearly one year in the university and passed my exams so I know this site is bull.
So many ways to get bad beat. I have been losing like this in up to 20 tourneys per 2 hours in a day. They dismiss it by explaining how you just got the short stick today but if we analyze 1 mil hands in period of 1 month then the math will prevail.
However, it's beautiful how they manage to get you losing in a tourney where you play good and tight. Because they know they can't make put your money in the pot for nothing they will deal you 99, you will hit a flop like 9 7 3, so obviously you bet and the guy next to you goes all in.
What do you do??? There is of course always the idiot excuse as well. I had a situation after 4 h of playing to raise under the gun with AA and the guy on the button with half the stack not pressed by the blind or something decides to go all in with 89 off and hits on flop.
How peculiar is that. The worse of all is that they always do it not in the beginning in some small tourney but in a decisive moments against stacks that can cripple you.
Something else they do as well maybe it is part of the 'fairness' or 'faire chances' plrs get, not sure what they call it but they always put you on a table with stack that are your size.
Once I was playing a tourney of aprox people and in the first 10 min I had huge hands and very good pots to make around 60K while the average stack was So I am being placed at a table with this plr who has 62K.
I am being dealt KK and he is was dealt AA. I could believe that this could happen. To be moved at a table with the other huge stack in a tourney of people and to get KK against AA.
Surely I was all in at a point and I lost. What are the odds. I am sure there are superusers grinding for the house.
I dont care what anyone says about it PokerStarsUK is rigged. You are constantly given cards to entice you into the pot and draws to continue. It is impossible that they are randomly giving out cards.
I continuously see 5 or more players all in ALL holding face cards. Mathematically this is bizarre. I have screenshots of bad beats as the critics call it where I'm being reraised preflop holding jj and they hit 2 pairs on the flip holding cards like 10,4 off suit.
I play live poker at a high level winning thousands and I will never put another penny into online poker. It's a scam and it's rigged. While I enjoy the game in theory, this site poker stars I have come to the conclusion that it is a scam.
Most common AA holding to only lose to or some ridiculous cards, with the dagger coming on the River.
We have a saying, the name should be changed to River Stars!!! The games I play are. I would love to find another site that I could feel confident in its honesty.
I believe this article is well written, but it is lacking data. Now, I have been analysing and compiling my own data, and i got to say, things look pretty unbelievable.
I play live poker regularly with my friends, both cash game and tournaments. Bad beats happen, but theory of large numbers works out in the end.
In Pokerstars, it just doesn't. I could spend a bunch of time writing all my statistical analysis here, but there is no point.
But I do have to point out some of my most interesting findings: This is based on several hundred hands with these specific odds, which make it pretty much beyond doubt that it is not a coinsidence.
Just over the last two days, I had AA three times in 50 hands yesterday and twice in 20 hands today. Going every hand all-in pre flop had one fold, and 4 calls.
Each of those calls WON, 3 times against 88, one time against Now, even if you consider there are thousands of hands being delt every second, there is still no chance in the world for this to happen to a single player.
Noone can really claim that the site is rigged, but there is really no quality assurance to make sure it isn't. When compared to real poker, there are just way too many unbelievable events that occur.
In any case, if you like poker, my suggestion is to go play it for real, and not give money to scam sites. Love this losing players complaining Run your own stats from hand history, people tend to forget when they win as favourites but remembering losts against the odds.
I did it as well, they will send you your hand history, so if you have time and are willing to put some effort, go on.
After I went through this, I found out nothing extraordinary, all ok with maths How about the fact that the recent pokerstars update that was mandatory rendered it impossible to contact their support team.
On free play why do you have to wait a long time to play after you have lost one stack? I had to wait 8hrs before they would give me another stack.
That's terriable it's not real money. I happen to know a thing or two about Microsoft software flaws, and I can honestly say their is either a group of kgb hackers, taking peoples money through sql injections, or this site is running a international scam that only favors those who are in on the scam.
I know the majority of "so-called professionals that made a career on this website are all of "Jewish" decent, which makes me think this is nothing but a Ponzi scheme and were all the goyim".
But no their not racist their willing to fuck over anyone not in their circle. I would like to believe its lack of knowledge and sql injectors taking advantage of the sites poor software.
The truth is earning money and saving it, is the only way to get ahead in life. Okay so first of all let me start by saying I played my 1st game of poker back in or 10 and just fell in love with the game I completely understand that, in poker, at times even 2 7 offsuit can destroy pair A A.
But man pokerstars has a complete differwnt vibe to it. Now I have won a few big tourneys that I am very proud of eg Their weekly bronze freeroll I ended up making the final table on that tourney it had entrants..
Just in this tournament 'bronze star' I flopped AA and was near button and had to call an all in so I did the guy had 66 Flop A6k,J,6 he had a four of kind on river and my full house fot beat Another example is a 30k bounty builder.
I had made the few last tables and went all in After I made my flush on the turn and got called but a three of a kind but on the river he hits a full house.
I lose all my k chip stack. Another big tourney but this was near the start. There are many more times some seedy stuff has happened. As for my winnings I have won around I will play poker on future most probably live.
Look man its an online gambling company how much morals do you expect them to have.. I only play the play money games and they are most definitely fixed so there is no way I would play with real money.
I have been playing for a few years and I now know at what time of the day they will let me win, in fact almost guarantee I will win, no matter what cards I get.
I also know when there is no way possible for me to win, no matter what cards I get. It is obvious that it is programmed that way to make you feel like you can't lose and will eventually switch to the real money games.
Anybody that actually uses their own money to play on Poker Stars is being played for a fool, it is a computer generated program that is programmable to do whatever they want it to.
Play money is fine but don't fall for their scam. Stars is a scam. I read the comments here and just the same thing happend me. Soon I have to not be taken out becauce of bad beats How mutch will I loose this time: Flopp was AQT spades.
I hope he has flush
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